Thread:AnimationFan15/@comment-30953185-20180906044323/@comment-30953185-20180907013620

OK, you are kinda right, but I do have to point out something. Even though Lincoln’s grade got docked down. It was only docked down to an A-.

''Imagine if in the episode Testing Testing 1 2 3, it ended on the teacher saying Dash got an F. I guess that could've been funny for a second, but it also ruins the entire episode by making all of RD's efforts totally pointless. Some things are more important to the overall product than just getting one more laugh in. This is the exact same attitude that has killed other shows like Family Guy and Teen Titans Go.''

Again, it was just an A-.

But what's especially fascinating to me is how this show tries to be both a light hearted cartoon that teaches kids morals as well as high energy affair with toilet humor, twerking, and some pretty nasty character moments.

The toilet humor and twerking was not the show’s main source of humor.

''Did no one else feel super uncomfortable when characters turned on Lincoln just because they thought he liked some MLP rip-off, or when he couldn't get his house to be green initially, or when everyone thought he was bad luck? Or how about when Lincoln turns on everybody else, like when he started thinking he was a pompous rich kid just because he won a limo contest, or how he relished in the opportunity to be an only child, or when he was perfectly fine staying in another dimension for the rest of his life?''

(sigh) You’re right there. These moments were pretty bad.

There's also plenty of other moments delegated to other characters: Rita would rather have community service then deal with her family, Lucy getting constantly ignored, any Luan pranking episode, Luna's out of nowhere 180 turn attitude in House Music, and countless other moments.

OK, let me stop you on your first point: Rita is the mother of 11 kids!! And did you not see the montage in the beginning or the scene where the chaos was unfolding? Rita wasn’t abandoning the her family, she just needed to take a break from them. Also, I like the April Fool’s episodes, but you are right on the second one, and I get the third one, but I don’t mind it.

''I know what I'm about to say is very presumptuous, but please hear me out. Mean spirited humor, on a fundamental level, cannot work on shows like The Loud House. The tone that this show has set up for itself simply does not mesh well at all with a lot of the plots I'm expected to get invested in. What doesn't work in shows like MLP, OK K.O.!, Community, and We Bare Bears works fabulously on shows like Rick & Morty, It's Always Sunny, Gumball, and The Venture Bros. The former shows know exactly what their style of humor should be given the context of their worlds, and the latter shows wouldn't be as memorable without all the downer endings and cynicism.''

''If you think TLH is tailor-made for this kind of humor, then I guess I can't really argue with you there. But you know what, I could forgive all of that stuff before from the simple characters to the uncomfortable tone to Ronnie Anne if it weren't for one thing. Is this show at least fu-''

It's Not Funny

… Say what now?

''I vividly remember when rushfan2596 said he finally watched the Family Guy episode Brian's a Bad Father. And unlike a lot of people, he loves it. Why? Because it was funny. And that got me thinking. Can something be given leeway if it's funny? In my opinion, the answer is absolutely! Comedy is one of the hardest things to write, and to be able to nail it is a truly impressive feat. Unikitty can be annoying at times, but it's funny! Gumball can be a little cruel at times, but it's funny! Spongebob can be a bit too surreal at times, but it's funny! Sonic Boom can be a little cheesy at times, but it's funny! It's Always Sunny (and even Family Guy) can be pretty sadistic at times, but they're also really REALLY funny!''

''So on top of all the problems I listed before, The Loud House is also painfully unfunny, which to me is the final nail in the coffin. This show gets just about every aspect of humor wrong as far as I'm concerned. What makes most comedy work is how unexpected it is. But TLH has no tricks up its sleeves due to how repetitive its style of humor is.''

''Everything is predictable. It was so obvious in Baby Steps that Clyde wouldn't have a brother. It was so obvious in Teacher's Union that the coach wasn't some big shot. It was so obvious in Roadie To Nowhere that Chunk wasn't homeless. It was so obvious in L is for Love that the letter wasn't for any of the Loud siblings. It was so obvious in City Slickers that Lori would hate the city. I know that comedies don't, and honestly shouldn't, have complex stories, but these plots are so much more annoying when the comedy doesn't work. This show doesn't have the luxury of telling one sentence plots like Gumball or Spongebob because there's not enough cleverness to the situations or dialogue to make up for the predictability.''

OK, call me an idiot, but I didn’t see any of those twists you listed coming, well, I had my suspicions about Clyde getting a baby brother, but the rest, I didn’t know. This is a problem I’ve realized I have. Most people will say they knew an obvious plot twist, but for some reason, I almost never see them. Like in the Incredibles 2, people kept saying that they knew that the Screenslaver was Evelyn, but I didn’t. I thought it was Winston. Weird, I know. Anyway, getting back on track, I know these stories are predictable to others, but what makes them enjoyable to me, is what the characters get out of it; seeing Clyde getting the confidence to be a great big brother, seeing Coach Pacowski getting a partner out of Nurse Patti, seeing Luna realize that she doesn’t have to worry about not making it in the future, seeing the LKs (especially Luna) learning they shouldn’t be shy in showing their affections for someone, seeing Bobby comfort Lori and telling her everything would be ok. These conflicts got very satisfying resolutions, and I was happy with where the characters got.

''Just look at Selfie Improvement. The entire time it's just Lori "literally" trying to make the perfect selfie and failing. The problem is that none of her "fails" are remarkable in any way, and it makes Lori look like an idiot, even going as far as forcing her boyfriend to come out of the hospital after getting his wisdom teeth removed to get in a selfie with her. And you've always gotta end on a joke apparently, so we get another stinger ending proving that Lori has learned nothing. You don't always have to end on a joke you know. MLP is pretty solid proof of this.''

Again, Lori felt Carol had beaten her at everything, and she didn’t want her to take the thing she had just worked her butt off to complete. Not to mention, some of her fails were actually pretty funny. Also, you may think it makes Lori look stupid, but I think it shows off how dedicated she can be.

''Oh I know, how about in Net Gains when every scene just felt like it was filling in time to get to the obligatory "equal participation" lesson? Everyone should get to play, even those with broken legs.''

Those scenes were there to show how Lynn was treating her team, and then how she fixes her mistake.

''Can't forget Fool Me Twice when we had to wait through EVERY SINGLE LOUD MEMBER fainting at what their doppelgangers were doing. Two more things about that scene. 1. How did every double have the exact same voice as the originals. As a voice actor, I REFUSE to call that nitpicking because it makes zero sense, and it would've been fun to hear different actors do imitations of the main cast. 2. This is ANOTHER problem with having this many characters. Now that they've decided to not solely focus on Lincoln anymore, we have a new problem where the writers waste time trying to give every single character at least one line.''

OK, you’re right about the first two. I would have like to see the other Louds have different reactions other than just fainting, and it would be nice if other characters voice the Louds’s doubles. But on your third point, the writers have been trying to give the characters all lines ever since the first episode.

''That second problem is basically the entirety of White Hare, which was both a cautionary tale of what the show could've been, as well as a time vampire on all senses. Lincoln didn't even learn any good lessons from the dream or the real life rabbits. I can't find the point anywhere you guys!''

Well, I think the lesson Lincoln learned was that he has it better with ten human sisters instead 25 rabbit ones. That’s… probably not such a good moral.

But if you really want a scene that perfectly encapsulates this serious problem, look no further than the bunker scene from No Place Like Homeschool.

''Lincoln: Alright, guys. Let's get cracking.''

[Leni starts clicking with her tongue.]

Luan: Would you mind not doing that?

Leni: Doing what?

[Lynn's stomach starts growling.]

''Lana: Hey, shut your gut. I'm trying to read over here.''

Lynn: How can you hear my stomach over Luna's tapping foot?

Luna: I'm just trying to drown out the noise of Lucy chewing her pen.

''Lucy: It helps me focus. Otherwise, all I can think about is Lori's perfume.''

Lori: Um, would you rather smell Lana's grubby old hat?

''Lana: [offended] Wow. [the sisters start arguing] It's your fault.''

Leni: It's totally your fault and I don't like your perfu-

''You've made our point scene, everyone is annoyed. Get on with telling a story please!''

Come on, dude. That scene only took up a few seconds of your life. It’s not that bad.

"Here at The Loud House, we just want to have a safe environment where everyone feels equal. Even though we've focused a large majority of our show on just one character who happened to be the only boy of the cast. And we also have an episode where we say all girls are different, yet another one totally contradicting this where every Loud sibling loves a hot guy (this is another reason why Lily's my favorite). And we also have an episode saying that all boys are the same too. And we're still gonna use Lincoln in the title cards for episodes he has nothing to do with. Equal rights!"

OK, you do have a point. The show's treatment of different sexes can be pretty ridiculous. But, I kinda like Lincoln appearing in every card. It’s like a game of “Where’s Waldo?”