Thread:Veenster7/@comment-26212090-20161117225544/@comment-5558012-20161118040743

Veenster7 wrote: ... as far as I could tell DEmersonJMFM was okay with it. I mention him because he has a lot of experience with wikis, if he sees something wrong and calls you out on on it you should get to fixing it. These new rules are absolutely ridiculous. I mean something like uploading 150 images,... I'm replying to this mainly because I was mentioned. I appreciate the recognition of my wiki experience though I would shy away from agreeing that everything I say is quote-on-quote "right." I still have opinions, many of which stem from my experience, and some of them may not work here, but I do try to stay objective.

The criteria has been ridiculous (and arbitrary), to a point, at different occasions. Numbers don't guarantee someone should be in that position or that they will be good at it. Though I understand being a well-rounded editor is nice and all, but it's not always necessary to get positive results (though shouldn't be flat out ignored).

I believe focus should be less on specific numbers of edits and more of a generalization. For example, take Munkapedia's policy (this discussion isn't universal). The only numbers are time lengths and position criteria isn't extremely specific. Promotions are mostly judgement-based (not specifically stated but we look at the character of the user, their helpfulness to others, edit quality, community engagement). Overall, my focus isn't on whether someone uploaded 50 images or if they have 2,000 total edits, but whether or not the position is needed (important) and if the user has the capacity (in part to how long they've been on the wiki and what they've done) to use the tools in the position to benefit the wiki. Some numbers are okay; just don't miss the bigger picture.

As a result, I'd recommend changing the structure from one of users asking for positions to one in which the community nominates users when a position is needed before discussing and voting on the candidates. The wiki is larger and older so I see this as a more organized and controlled approach.