Thread:P4B2/@comment-30065616-20180811175614/@comment-30065616-20180812200043

"Do you know that Commander James Gordon, Batman's great ally, is actually Bárbara Gordon's uncle and he adopted her as his daughter?"

??? And what does this have to do with being an adoptive siblings? James Gordon and his wife are adoptive siblings? no. And then you're talking about a story about a Barbara Gordon not "original"! in short, that's just a reboot. In fact, in the past, during her debut in 1967, Barbara was considered the biological daughter of James Gordon. Then years later, the DC decided to reboot in which Barbara became the niece of James Gordon, taken care of by him after the death of his parents. Then in the DC Animated Universe, she became James's biological daughter again. this depends on the continuity of history. In addition, in the reboot Barbara has always called James "Uncle", not "Dad", even if she had considered him as an adoptive father, all simply for pure deep affection since she grew up with James for a long time.

So, frankly I can not see this connection with the McBride family.

"Can be given as initial series, but can be changed as the series unfolds."

And why should they ever change something that is already confirmed? Why should they go back on this? It is not possible to go back on a declared canonical thing that is now evident to everyone. It is not possible to go back to something that has always existed in reality: the LGBT people. LGBTs are people, just like us. They simply have sexual tastes different from ours. The reasons why there is this lgnt representation in the animation for kids are exactly two: First, in the children's public there are some children who have two mothers or two dads and some of the children who have friends with LGBT parents or some LGBT relatives in the family like their uncles or their grandparents or their older cousins. Secondly, marriages and gay adoptions have now been legal for 4 years in the US and many LGBT are starting to leave the closet, with less fear than in the past)

In the last ten years, different cartoons have come out for kids who have canonically declared lgbt characters. Here's the list:

Hey, Arnold (This year, after the film, the author has finally declared that Arnold's teacher, called Simon, is gay) Star vs. The Forces of Evil (First gay kiss shown on the screen, even if demonstrated briefly.) Later, in two different episodes two gay couples with children are shown) Steven Universe (This year, finally after three years of show, there was a marriage proposal for Ruby and Sapphire, so they got married) Gravity Falls (first gay couple for Disney) The Legend of Korra Doc McStuffins Clarence Zootopia (Judy's couple of neighbors is confirmed gay, months later since her release in the cinemas) Paranorman (First gay character, By production Laika in 2012) Storks (at the end of the movies, many children are adopted by mixed couples, single parents, traditional parents and gay parents) Boxtrolls (First lgbt family, By production Laika in 2014)

Do you then realize that in these cartoons, someone came very back to the lgbt topic? After, they changed idea and they want not to realize anymore lgbt topic, then? The answer is no.

"And if Harold and Howard are even married, why are not they pictures of them?"

This is an observation that does not make much sense, sincerely. Rita Loud and Lynn Sr are also clearly married and in love, but they do not have the faiths displayed visibly on their fingers, and the photos of their marriage are not shown yet. The same applies to the Yates spouses and the Casagrande spouses (Carlos and his wife Frida). The main goal of Crew Loud House is not to show romance in all parts (the one in fact comes later), but rather the importance of a family in all different forms. In addition, the reason that the creators did not put the wedding rings on couples is because it simply becomes easier and faster to draw the fingers well without wearing any accessories.

Maybe it's hard for you to see Harold and Howard together really like a gay couple in love, and not a pair of brothers. But there are at least two obvious evidence shown on this show, in which Harold and Howard are really a gay couple: One: the fridge in their kitchen has a writing "snog", which means to kiss and caress lovingly. you can see this, for example, in the episode "Deficit Attention". In addition, Howard and Harold's mirrors have plaques with the word "His" on them. A typical thing in a married couple. Two: One of the writers on this show, called Kevin Sullivan, is a declared LGBT. It was he who created Harold, Howard, Luna Loud and Sam as lgbt characters. With the full consent of all his colleagues, then. The stories in which they appeared Howard, Harold and Luna Loud as a lgbt reference were all almost written by him: Deficit attention, Overnight Success, L is For Love, Snow Way Down, Friendzy, Racing Hearts and Health Kicked. If you want, you can go to see the list of these episodes mentioned by me in the dedicated Wikia page to Kevin Sullivan.

How do I know that Kevin Sullivan is a declared LGBT? Simple: I saw his personal profile on Fb, and in a picture he carries the flag of Lgbt pride. Nobody knows exactly if he's gay, bisexual or pan ... but he's certainly not straight 100%.

"So it's easier to think they're brothers".

Easier to think? seriously? I'm sorry to tell you, but none of all us fans of The Loud House thinks that Harold and Howard are a pair of adoptive brothers, so you're the only one who thinks so. But perhaps after all these observations that I mentioned above, you may have realized now that it is no longer possible to define Harold and Howard REALLY as adoptive brothers