Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26901681-20170115041407/@comment-31124329-20170116190305

DonnieGuy17 wrote:

Manic The Hedgehog wrote: I don't have 10 edits, so I can't support this directly, but the sentiment is definitely still there. This user uses unfortunate tactics to pit users, and even entire communities, against each other. Given everything, I also question the sincerity of User:DonnieGuy17, in general.

South Park Archives' Discord v. DonnieGuy17
The entire situation on South Park Archives started when I, essentially, wouldn't open up to or indulge DonnieGuy17 one particular day. I had done so all the other days, but that particular day he was being especially agitating. This is all on Discord, none of this took place on the wiki and I had rare spoken about it to DonnieGuy17.

After telling DonnieGuy17 to go away, he shows me a new profile picture. My response was, "don't care." His eventual response was "i'm about to do something and i think it's for the best". (DonnieGuy17, just as an aside, you have to actually participate in the wiki to be able to remotely gauge what's the best for it.)

Sandgar
But we're here for Sandgar. Anyways, we eventually found out what that "best" was. Sandgar, a complete non-editor, someone I've never seen or heard of before, and a self-proclaimed wiki activist, launches the aforementioned thread to demote me, a thread on Community, and about 30 lines on my Discord.

At this point, according to Fandom policies, I have every right to close, remove, and delete the thread. But, someone has a problem with me, so I spend hours trying to figure out who. Supposedly there were "many users", including a user "important to the wiki."

During all that time, I affirmatively respond to each of Sandgar's attacking points, all the while he remained a victim. He wanted everything in his favor, and believed others should be censored and banned for not, essentially, leaping to his defense.

We kept going in circles, for hours, and I never got anything substantial out of him. He was attacking me incessantly, but not giving me anything to defend against. I knew at the beginning that it was DonnieGuy17, and there he was, saving his new friend from a horrible maniac.

Conclusion
Having had my own experience with Sandgar, having read every post in this thread and in the links they contain, and having seen him banned on several wikis for similar behavior, I think maintaining his ban here in a good idea. This user, while having made some contributions here, brings toxicity to communities wherever he goes. That whole "i'm about to do something and i think its for the best" was about me leaving SPA discord temporarily. That whole demotion thread was never supposed to happen but sandgar insisted anyways. I tried to stop him but it didn't work and still it went up. So, i'm sorry about that little mix up. I never wanted all that to happen. It was originally just me leaving discord for a few days. I know it may seem hard to believe but it's all true, every single word. If you think I'm lying, you clearly don't know me anymore.